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		<title>PayPal&#8217;s eBay Payment Holding Policy, Why I Agree, and How to Work with it.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Angell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By implementing systems like this “Escrow” holding, huge problems can be avoided and if you follow the guidelines of the system it will not be a nuisance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to be alone on an island with the idea that I  actually agree with PayPal’s new system for new or low volume eBay  sellers.  I understand it can be  frustrating and especially confusing for new sellers, however, I believe it will  solve more problems than it causes and if you work with the system properly everybody  can be happy.  I’ll discuss more about the  reasons this system has been introduced later.   For now, let’s talk about how we can work with the system, because like  it or not, if we’re going to sell on eBay, we have to.</p>
<p>So, we sold our item on eBay and now “evil” PayPal has  placed a temporary hold on these funds, however, they’re telling us to go ahead  and ship it.  The way this new system  works is that our funds will not be released until one of the following things  happens:</p>
<ul>
<li>Your buyer leaves positive feedback</li>
<li>3 days pass after delivery confirmation (via  tracking number)</li>
<li>21 days have passed</li>
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<p>Obviously, we don’t want to wait 21 days for our money.  So how can we ensure that one of the first  two things happens in a timely manner so that we can have access to our money  as quickly as possible?  Here are a few  things to consider.</p>
<p><strong>Handling Feedback</strong></p>
<p>eBay’s Selling Manager application provides an easy way to  automate the process of requesting feedback from your buyers.  You can create rules to send a feedback  reminder <em>x</em> number of days after  shipping it.  Beyond that, you can easily  find all of your sold items that need feedback and with just a few clicks you  can send out feedback request emails to every one of them with a personal,  customized message to each.</p>
<p>If the Selling Manager doesn’t offer enough help you can use  the eBay web services API to develop custom tools to completely automate the  process of requesting feedback from buyers who have not left any, as well as leaving  feedback for your buyers on a set schedule, after they’ve left one for you,  or however you’d like to handle it.  You  could even create a system that automatically tracked all of your current  shipments and sent out reminders on the same day your customer received their  item.  Within the reminder, ask them to  inspect their item and ensure they’re happy and then please leave a feedback on  eBay.</p>
<p>Of course, the key to obtaining a positive feedback quickly  is to be honest about what you’re selling and maintain good communication with  your buyer throughout the entire process.   If your buyer is truly happy with your service and the product they  received they are much more likely to take a few moments and leave you a  feedback.</p>
<p><strong>Tracking Numbers –  Proof of Delivery</strong></p>
<p>PayPal will also release the funds once three days have  passed after proof-of-delivery (tracking number shows delivered).  If you use PayPal’s shipping buttons to print  shipping labels for your products then this step is taken care of  automatically.  The tracking number is  entered into the transaction details and PayPal’s system can easily track it  and release the funds accordingly.  This  probably covers the majority of you.</p>
<p><em>Here’s the part PayPal  screwed up!  They do plan to fix it,  though.</em></p>
<p>If you are NOT using PayPal’s shipping buttons to print  shipping labels it can be a nightmare to maintain the tracking numbers in  PayPal so that their system can successfully release funds on time.  Currently, the only way you can get your  tracking information into PayPal if it was generated elsewhere is to manually  add it.  There is no access to tracking  information via PayPal’s web services API!</p>
<p>This problem could indeed be a big one.  I have a couple of clients that use FedEx for  shipping so they don’t even have the choice of using PayPal’s shipping features  to generate shipping labels.  As such,  the only option they have is to employ somebody to enter tracking numbers  manually into PayPal’s system.  As such,  they typically skip this and focus on obtaining positive feedback from the  buyers.</p>
<p><strong>Why is PayPal Doing  This?</strong></p>
<p>I think the easiest way to explain why this system has been  put into place is to provide an example scenario in which not having this  system hurts everybody.  I’ve seen it all  too often.  Consider the following:</p>
<p><em>Buyer purchases a  desktop computer on eBay for $1000 from Seller.   Seller states in the auction that the computer has 4 RAM slots.  He also states that he has a 7 day return  policy should anything go wrong with the sale. </em></p>
<p><em>Buyer pays for the item  via PayPal and Seller has the money instantly.   Seller is an honest guy that just needed to get rid of this  computer.  He ships the computer and  assumes everything will be just fine.   Seller proceeds to spend the $1000 on this month’s bills and his PayPal  account is now at $0. </em></p>
<p><em>Buyer receives the  computer and sees that it only has 2 RAM slots in it.  He had already purchased 4 sticks of RAM and  was ready to load up his new machine and is rather upset.  Buyer contacts Seller and explains the  situation and also opens a new PayPal dispute claiming the item was not as  described.</em></p>
<p><em>Seller, again, is an  honest guy.  In the PayPal dispute he  apologizes for his mistake and agrees that Buyer should get a full refund upon  returning his item.  Buyer returns the item  and provides proof-of-delivery on the returned merchandise.  PayPal sides with Buyer on the dispute and  attempts to refund Buyer.</em></p>
<p><em>The problem is that  Seller already spent the money.  Seller’s  PayPal account now goes into the -$1000 balance.  PayPal has to explain to Buyer that because  the Seller has insufficient funds they cannot refund the money even though they  sided with Buyer on the dispute.  Buyer,  of course, is not happy with this news. </em></p>
<p><em>Seller is also not  happy because his PayPal account is now -$1000 they’re coming after him for  that money.  Seller is struggling to pay  it back, though, because he already spent it on his bills.</em></p>
<p><em>At this point Buyer is  unhappy with PayPal, Seller is unhappy with PayPal, and PayPal is unhappy that  they now have 2 people spreading the word on blogs that PayPal is a horrible  thing.</em></p>
<p>That is just one of the many examples I’ve seen that could  have been avoided if the Seller would have simply waited until the buyer had  received his item and was completely happy BEFORE spending the money.  Buyer would have gotten his refund and Seller  could have re-listed the item and sold it again with the correct specifications.</p>
<p>Here’s another scenario to consider:</p>
<p><em>Scammer has a list of  phished eBay and PayPal accounts.   Scammer proceeds to list items on these accounts that are high dollar  and quick sellers.  Things like iPhones,  laptops, and the likes.  Scammer sells  approximately 20 of these items without any intention of ever delivering a  single thing to anybody.  Unsuspecting  buyers purchase these items and send payment right away.  Scammer then moves the money from these  payments between a bunch of different phished accounts to make it hard to track  and eventually gets out with cash or might even use the funds to purchase items  and have them shipped to “drop-spots” where they will be able to obtain the  merchandise. </em></p>
<p><em>In such a case, once  PayPal discovers this has happened they are forced to freeze ALL ACCOUNTS  INVOLVED while they investigate and try to track down all of the money that has  now flooded their system with disputes.   Now you’ve got a whole mess of upset customers.</em></p>
<p>Again, this scam could have been avoided had the funds not  been made available until after the buyers actually had their items, which in  this case would have been never.  Then,  when disputes were filed the funds would still be available to refund to the  buyer.</p>
<p>Once more, these are just a couple examples of the many  crazy scenarios I’ve seen with buyers and sellers on eBay using PayPal.  By implementing systems like this “Escrow”  holding, huge problems can be avoided and if you follow the guidelines of the  system it will not be a nuisance.</p>
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